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The game of craps is traditionally played with a pair of dice but now there are variations of the game that is played with specially marked playing cards or traditional playing cards to simulate the roll of the dice.  We will look at the games of craps and card craps here and discuss developments with craps and card craps -- with and without throwing dice.

PIROUZ GAMING CAMPAIGNS FOR ITS PATENTED "CALIFORNIA DICE" GAME

A Southern California company called Pirouz Gaming is campaigning to get its version of the game of craps or dice used in California casinos as well as in other casinos around the country.  The Pirouz game is legal for California casino and card casino use because this game uses playing cards to determine a simulated roll of the dice.  But the inventors say their game is better than other versions of "card craps" because its game has true craps game odds, and it is a faster game, and it is a more comfortable game for players who sit at the table, and allows players to participate in the action.  The inventors of the game say that because the game is limited to a small number of players interacting with only one dealer it will also help new players to learn the game.

In most "card craps" games, the players' fate is determined only by dealers.  While in a traditional craps game, players determine the fate of their bets by throwing dice.  And in the Pirouz game, there is a bit of both.

The Pirouz Game is based on a special deck of only 36 playing cards that simulate the roll of dice in the traditional craps game, and players choose one of three cards that becomes the simulated "rolled" rolled.  There is also an option to use a special set of dice with pips that will result in only a 3 or a 7 or an 11.  In the Pirouz Game, the three possible "simulated roll cards" are placed on the layout in spaces marked 3, 7 or 11 and the card that is played is either chosen by the "simulated shooter" by a voice command ("I'll take the 3, dealer") or throwing the special dice.

The Pirouz Game layout also has hardway bets and other traditional bets found on a craps layout.  Pirouz Gaming is now introducing its patented game to casino operators in California and Nevada and other states.  For information call Pirouz Gaming at (562) 715-7028 or email them for information at Pirouz711@aol.com. 

Watch our video report below.

A DREAM TABLE FOR A "DICE INFLUENCER" OR "DICE CONTROLLER"

The Hacienda Casino near the Boulder Dam just a short drive outside of Las Vegas might be have the perfect or dream craps table for any player who thinks they can influence or control the throw of dice.  It's also a great place to practice the art of influencing or controlling dice because the casinon has a $1 minimum.  But that's not what makes the table at the Hacienda the dream table or the perfect table.

What makes this table so attractive for throwing dice is that when there are few players, half of the table is shut down, and the casino places a straight wall around the middle of the table to shorten the table.  The key element here is that it is truly a straight wall meaning that your dice will hit a straight, flat wall without a curve.  It is the curve or bend in the back wall of craps tables that can send pre-set dice off their axis and disturb an attempt at dice control or dice influencing.

We have a short video of this table and the straight wall below.

But keep in mind that this straight wall is added to the table only when there are few players and only one dealer staffs the table, without a boxman or stickman.

Yes, casino personnel are very aware that some players will attempt to control or influence the dice using a short table like this with a straight wall, but they don't seem to be very concerned.  Perhaps it is because there are so few true dice controllers or dice influencers out there who have mastered the art.  But again, for a buck on this $1 minimum bet craps table, you can test your skill -- or lack of skill -- at the Hacienda Casino.

CRAPS MINIMUM BETS DROP AS RECESSION TAKES TOLL

It started about six months ago -- casinos cutting their minimum bets at the craps tables because of the drop off in business because of the recession.  One of the most noted cuts came at Caesars Palace which used to have a $25 minimum on most tables and some tables had $100 minimum bets and sometimes on a Saturday night you might find a table with a $500 minimum bet.  It was not unusual to find $50 minimums when the crowds warranted it.  But now, $10 minimums are on most tables, though overnight when only one table is in use, you are likely to find a $25 minimum bet.

You will find $5 minimum bets at other casinos on the Strip including Bally's and Paris and Flamingo.  Bellagio has had a $10 minimum on many tables for as long as I can remember -- and that goes back to when the Bellagio opened.  The Bellagio also maintains two non-smoking tables.  I think that having a non-smoking table is not only great for the players, but a non-smoking table is also great for the crews who work the tables.  Frankly, nothing is worse than for a non-smoker to be stuck next to a cigar smoking player who lives in a cloud.  I don't know of any other casinos with non-smoking craps tables, but if you know of one please send an email so we can check it out.

"CARD CRAPS" COMING TO NEVADA AND LAS VEGAS

Card craps, which simulates the roll of two dice with two playing cards, has been familiar in California card casinos including Hollywood Park where it is still played, and The Bicycle Club where the game has been removed for a lack of interest, and in the various Indian casinos where it is played.

But now a company called Play Craps Inc. has developed a version of the game that has been tested in Las Vegas and might soon appear in many Nevada casinos.

Basically, its a card game that simulates the roll of two dice, and players seated at the card table are able to make bets similar to those found at a craps table.  The company says that its Play Craps game is just an easier game to play because 9 players are comfortably seated and no one has to stand.  Also, the game is staffed with one or two dealers -- unlike a traditional craps game that has three or four dealers and a boxman or supervisor.

In California, card craps has not been overly successful at the casinos, including the Indian casinos where it is played.  Frankly, if you polled the players who do play the various versions of card craps they would all tell you they'd rather be throwing the dice.  But Play Craps is arguing that players would be more comfortable seated, and letting two cards dealt from an automatic shuffler right in front of them decide the fate of their bets.

So, why bother with cards from an automatic shuffler?  Why not load two dice into a device that will spin and rotate the dice right in front of the players?

But really, isn't the whole idea behind the game of dice to let the players throw the dice themselves and to transfer the fate of their bets from the casino to the players?

Dice Control -- Is It Legal?  Is It Possible?
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This subject comes up from time to time in magazines, books, and especially on the Internet in discussions about casino gaming. Is it cheating to be able to set the dice in certain combinations and to throw the dice in a manner which limits the appearance of certain numbers or produces a better chance that certain numbers will show?
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In simple language, is dice control legal or illegal?
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The debate becomes serious when some people look at the exact language of various State's gaming regulations and make their own interpretations of that "legal text." What appears to be the "law" or the "rules of the game" might not be the law or the rules even if you read them in black and white.
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Take for example, the regulations of the State of Nevada. The definitions of "cheat" according to Nevada gaming regulations are spelled out this way:
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"Cheat" means to alter the elements of chance, method of selection or criteria which determine:
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(a) The result of a game;
(b) The amount or frequency of payment in a game;....
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From this statement, there are those who contend that dice control is therefore a way to "cheat" because dice control can alter the results in the game of craps (from non-random results), and dice control can alter the amount of frequency that certain bets are paid off (for example if a "shooter" can avoid throwing a "7" then that bet would not be paid as frequently as with a random shooter).
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Well, clear as day it might appear that dice control including setting the dice for certain combinations and the skillfull throwing of dice to avoid certain numbers or results might appear to be a form of cheating based on the Nevada language.
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But after several conversations with regulators in both Nevada and Michigan (which uses similar language as Nevada to define "cheating") the regulators all agree that attempts at dice control including "setting" are not cheating and is perfectly legal providing other conditions are met.
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Regulators from both Nevada and Michigan have told me that "dice control" and controlled shooting and dice setting are legal as long as the following conditions are met:
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1. The dice are tossed in the air, above the table surface, and

2. The dice bounce at least once on the table surface, and

3. The dice hit the back wall of the table, and

4. No artificial methods are used to limit the rolls of the dice or their movement including glues or paste.

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Clearly altered dice including dice with magnets or weights are not allowed. But this is not a discussion about altered dice, this is only a discussion about the art of dice control, or an artful throw of the dice to influence the results of the "throw" or toss.

Some players have mastered an "illegal" throw called the whip shot or slide. This is also an artful "throw" but is not considered legal and is not tolerated by casinos or regulators. In the "slide" the dice actually do not roll or turn over and are whipped down the table with the same face or numbers always on top.

I have seen the whip shot or slide used on rare occasions, and because it was used rarely (and probably surprised casino personnel) the "toss" was not challenged. But, it could have been.

The former Chief of Enforcement of the Nevada Gaming Control Board, Keith Copher, has given extensive interviews on the subject of the legality of dice control. He has called setting the dice and "controlled shooting" an "expected part of the game" and a legal way to play.

I spoke with him shortly before his retirement.  Here are some exact questions about dice control and his answers:

Q: "Does the Gaming Commission recognize the efficacy of so-called "dice setting" by gamblers as a means to reliably produce non-random results of dice throws, in the same way it recognizes the efficacy of dice sliding?"

A: "Sliding (dice) is illegal because in sliding they don't bounce or roll the dice, and the dice don't bounce off the back wall. In sliding the same numbers are always known, and that's cheating. But if the dice bounce and hit the back wall that's okay and they can set them (the dice) any way they want to. The difference with a controlled throw is that there is still a bounce and the dice are in the air."

Q: "Does the Gaming Commission then consider "dice setting" to fall under the definition of "cheating"?

A: "No, as long as the dice fly in the air, bounce on the table, and hit the back wall. In some cases the casinos are lenient about the dice not hitting the back wall, and these are still legal throws, no cheating."

Q: "Why is dice sliding banned, but dice setting not banned, if both are considered effective means to alter the random outcome of dice?"

A: "Dice sliding is a method of cheating, but as long as dice fly in the air, bounce and hit the back wall it doesn't matter how they are set. It's not cheating as long as the dice fly in the air and bounce."

If you are a dice controller, the determination of the gaming authorities might be of little help to you if a casino challenges your "dice control." There are numerous reports of casinos that have told "shooters" that they cannot "set" the dice, or that they must "pick 'em up and throw them."

Casinos, can and do, set their own "rules of play." Casinos can decide not to allow dice setting or controlled shooting, just as they can block "card counters" from playing blackjack.

Card Counting is not illegal in Nevada and other states. In fact, various courts have upheld the legality of players using their skill (card counting) to win the game of blackjack. But the casinos, being private businesses, are not obligated to allow card counters to play in their establishments.

And so it is with dice controllers or "dice mechanics," as some are called. While setting and controlled shooting is legal the casinos do not have to let you play or shoot. They can say, "throw the dice our way or take the highway."

Casinos can also enforce the "back wall" rule differently. All casinos maintain that for a dice throw to be legal that both dice must hit the back wall; but this rule can be enforced and interpreted differently.

Some casinos will allow a throw when both dice end up short of the back wall by several inches or even a foot or two feet. But some casinos might call "no roll" when both dice fail to reach and hit the back wall.

I know of some casinos who maintain that the dice not only must reach the back wall but must bounce off of the backwall by at least several inches.

I've also heard of casinos who will declare "no roll" when the dice do not hit the back wall and a "winning number" shows, but will let the "short roll" count if a "seven out" or losing number shows.

If a casino abuses the rights of the consumer, then the consumer should lodge a complaint with the casino management. If the consumer feels the management has been unfair or has taken advantage of the consumer, then the consumer should take his business elsewhere.

Should you complain to gaming authorities? It depends on just how "one sided" the casino managment has been.

But as the strategy of "dice control" gains popularity and more players attempt it and some players master the skill, you might find that more casinos are less tolerant of short rolls and might even be less tolerant of dice setters and controlled shooters -- even to the point of blocking them from play.

I was intrigued to see this exchange between two craps players on an Internet discussion board on the subject of the illegality vs. legality of dice control.

The first comments came from a writer who suspects that dice control is illegal and cheats, and he wrote:

"Card counting is not criminalized because... it does not involve any manipulation, control, or influence upon the gaming device, in this case, cards. Same with looking for a dealer who, through sloppy procedure, inadvertantly flashes the dealer's hole card. Both are passive, and involve human observation only. Dice setting, were it to be demonstrated effective, is a different kettle of fish entirely, as it involves a conscious attempt to manipulate and control the gaming device through overt, intentional action. Its espousers allegedly 'teach' the shooter to remove randomness from the game, and that would be a crime...if it works."

This player continues: "The only fundamental difference between dice sliding (crime) and dice setting (not yet considered a crime) is that those who implement and enforce the law know that dice sliding works as claimed, affecting the outcome of the roll in objective and replicable fashion. I think however that we'll be seeing sterner countermeasures, including (God help us) throwing the bones (dice) from a cup, or requiring that the shooter shake and not set the dice, as opposed to criminalization. But if it worked, it could be deemed criminal conduct."

Another player, who says dice control is not a crime or cheating responded this way:

"But the most important thing you are overlooking is this: the dice are given to the player to throw. The casino is transferring the fate of the roll from a dealer to the player, and it is surrendering the control of the dice to the player. Now, it becomes an expected part of the game that the player will throw the dice so that he has an advantage. There are boundaries for what the player can do-- he can't substitute glued or loaded dice, or magnetized dice -- but when the control of the dice were transferred to the player the casino has surrendered and accepted that the player can have the skill to win his bets."

The debate continues. Some players challenge dice control as do some casinos.

The bottom line is that the casinos make the rules that fill in the gaps between what the gaming regulators and the courts say are the rules.

So this advice from "dice setters" and "controllers" I have come to know:

1. Don't be so obvious that you are setting the dice, and do it quickly.

2. Hit the back wall each and every time.

3. Do not delay the game with setting and throwing; practice at home so you can set and throw in a reasonably short period of time-- that's seconds.

4. Do not attempt dice control at casinos that are clearly opposed to dice controllers.

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